tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post2189998058424139065..comments2024-03-26T17:53:49.471+00:00Comments on Mark's Veg Plot: Tomato progress reportMark Willishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04558305122821209520noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-87080591650682165622016-07-15T10:39:55.557+01:002016-07-15T10:39:55.557+01:00It could be, sure. I've no way of telling thou...It could be, sure. I've no way of telling though. This year I am religiously segregating material from any affected plants (toms and beans mostly) and putting it into sacks for disposal at the tip.Mark Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04558305122821209520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-23497520149336346932016-07-15T09:14:03.287+01:002016-07-15T09:14:03.287+01:00 Do you think that the difference in the level of ... Do you think that the difference in the level of damage from the herbicide residue could be due to the amount of contamination present in that particular batch of compost rather than resistance by the variety of tomato plant?Sue Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164518448098182276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-27690007403971439392016-07-15T09:12:19.493+01:002016-07-15T09:12:19.493+01:00 Just to add to this discussion. Cattle browse on ... Just to add to this discussion. Cattle browse on grass that has been sprayed with hormone based herbicide and we eat the beef from the cattle and also drink the milk. This has been deemed say by the powers that be. Sue Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164518448098182276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-20056637339695257372016-07-15T07:33:51.451+01:002016-07-15T07:33:51.451+01:00Thanks, Mike, that's reassuring!Thanks, Mike, that's reassuring!Mark Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04558305122821209520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-26805204364795340112016-07-14T22:24:12.660+01:002016-07-14T22:24:12.660+01:00Just to clear things up, and I'm not a biologi...Just to clear things up, and I'm not a biologist (chemist) but lignin is an organic polymer, part of the structure of the plants vascular system (think wood). If the herbicide is tightly bound to lignin it's probably not getting into the fruit. From what I have read fruits are selective about what chemicals they allow into them. I would be much more concerned about eating leafy vegetables grown in contaminated soil. Plants have cell walls, little boxes surrounding the cells, animal cells don't have cell walls or lignin. More than likely the herbicide does not make it through the digestive system. gardenvariety-hoosierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02823437033502199023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-80062377392999838442016-07-14T18:23:03.725+01:002016-07-14T18:23:03.725+01:00Yes, I have seen this. I don't always believe ...Yes, I have seen this. I don't always believe what I read, especially if I think vested interest is involved - e.g. if (when) Dow Agrochemicals say it is not dangerous... But on balance I think it is OK to eat the fruit from my tomatoes.Mark Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04558305122821209520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-50276354153105965822016-07-14T18:20:11.845+01:002016-07-14T18:20:11.845+01:00I'm watching mine VERY carefully! They do have...I'm watching mine VERY carefully! They do have dark stems, but no signs of blight on leaves, so it may just be natural colouring. I hope so!Mark Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04558305122821209520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-34635341604699172482016-07-14T18:01:15.481+01:002016-07-14T18:01:15.481+01:00Hi Mark, I'm afraid my Mastkotka have all just...Hi Mark, I'm afraid my Mastkotka have all just been chucked - they started with the dark stem bits and succumbed to the blight shortly afterwards. Of my nine outside plants, only three are left and I don't have high hopes for those. Hey ho. Fortunately, there are six others in the greenhouse going strong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-3889296809218949562016-07-14T16:45:08.505+01:002016-07-14T16:45:08.505+01:00https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=477 says...https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=477 says <br /><br />"The Chemicals Regulation Directorate (CRD) has investigated the risk to human health and concluded that produce from affected land is safe to eat."Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15081292016016946981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-21646865010865756752016-07-14T16:41:26.694+01:002016-07-14T16:41:26.694+01:00Interesting point. A brief read-up suggests that t...Interesting point. A brief read-up suggests that the weed killer binds tightly to Lignin (in cell walls) and passes through animals (horses etc) undigested. Wikipedia suggests that Lignin can't be digested by animals (and I would guess also humans but I don't know). It is more than probably that when it is in a tomato it is already attached to Lignin and won't act as a poison to humans. As a weed killer out of the bottle it probably is a poison as it would attach to your cell walls (if we have Lignin in our cells) but since we would be eating it in a different form, having gone through a plant, I wouldn't have an issue with eating the fruit. It must be in such tiny quantities if it gets into fruit. I guess if the fruit is deformed, then probably don't eat.<br /><br />Worth finding out more though, because I certainly don't know any more than a guess...Andyhttp://ourlittlefield.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-75735556750719146902016-07-14T13:58:30.891+01:002016-07-14T13:58:30.891+01:00Respectfully, I do hope you consider tossing all o...Respectfully, I do hope you consider tossing all of the fruit and produce grown in this contaminated soil. If the poison --and that's what herbicides are, chemicals designed expressly to kill cells-- is in the leaf, it's also in the fruit or vegetables. This is baaaad, baaaad stuff.Tracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12097623860952775482noreply@blogger.com