tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post1154151895176060946..comments2024-03-26T17:53:49.471+00:00Comments on Mark's Veg Plot: Bread-making with XylitolMark Willishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04558305122821209520noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-63818433259694657582019-11-23T17:39:39.868+00:002019-11-23T17:39:39.868+00:00I tried to use for sweet sourdough cinnamon roll,...I tried to use for sweet sourdough cinnamon roll, as my husband also avoids sugar. I had the same feeling, it took longer to grow and developed less. I read that xylitol has antibacterial activity, I couldn't find anything related with yeast, but I'm quite sure it reduces the yeast activity. As the colleagues already said, for normal salt breads you don't need to add any sugar. If you want to try a sweet bread I'd suggest adding xylitol at the end on the top, or try some fructose. Bruna Hirschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694564727658600467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-49420423390929915472017-10-26T22:55:36.348+01:002017-10-26T22:55:36.348+01:00My husband is making bread right now. He had put i...My husband is making bread right now. He had put in 1/4 cup of xylitol. I read him your posts, and then he added a teaspoon of sugar. Now I think maybe I should read him about side effects of zylitol.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05913947562599359823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-40417553271521024722017-02-07T18:10:16.082+00:002017-02-07T18:10:16.082+00:00Interesting experiment. I was just about to use Xy...Interesting experiment. I was just about to use Xyla (which is the brand name in Canada) in my bread machine today but am now forestalled. However, I am a little surprised you us 4 tablespoons of sugar in your white bread recipe, seems a little excessive. My recipe, in the Black & Decker instruction book that came with the machine only uses 1 tablespoon of sugar and the loaves turn out fine. Maybe your recipe was developed by a dentist?<br /><br />Thanks for the tip.<br /><br />SteveStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14815352213173716140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-14038662990756647822011-12-06T10:53:12.964+00:002011-12-06T10:53:12.964+00:00Martyn left out the small amount of sugar he usual...Martyn left out the small amount of sugar he usually puts in the mixture for our bread maker bread and the sugarless bread was just fine - he's posted a photo on his blog today 6 December - it rose well. From now on no sugar for our bread.Sue Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164518448098182276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-45603338852519060372011-12-01T20:00:20.204+00:002011-12-01T20:00:20.204+00:00That's a shame - I don't use a bread maker...That's a shame - I don't use a bread maker any more, I make my bread by hand, and only use sugar (or honey) on the walnut and honey soda bread. I do remember that all bread maker recipes used lots of sugar, I wonder why it is necessary, you would think the chemistry would be the same whatever the method. Great looking loaf, that one on the left.Janet/Plantaliscioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15605580157193047780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-63109413263530052352011-12-01T01:43:55.661+00:002011-12-01T01:43:55.661+00:00Failed experiments teach us. Interesting conversat...Failed experiments teach us. Interesting conversation about the sweetner. I don't use any sweetner in my loaves either.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14490964982321159910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-73311845227365923712011-11-30T15:46:36.921+00:002011-11-30T15:46:36.921+00:00Ah the best way to find out if things work, is to ...Ah the best way to find out if things work, is to try it. Shame about the bread though - nothing better than homemade bread, even if it comes out of the bread machine. Fingers crossed the cranberry sauce will be good.Shaheenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03602971207085826708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-52484052846395366342011-11-30T12:36:28.674+00:002011-11-30T12:36:28.674+00:00Wow! What a difference! As good as the loaf on the...Wow! What a difference! As good as the loaf on the left looks, you must have really been disappointed when you saw the one on the right. Very interesting information.Veggie PAKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13250455377130668508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-81889229169964098232011-11-30T11:17:38.902+00:002011-11-30T11:17:38.902+00:00As above I too have a bread making machine and the...As above I too have a bread making machine and the recipe I use doesn't use sugar at all. <br />The bread always looks and tastes great...plus the smell...Mmmmm...you can't beat it ;DNeesiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08629847485174945501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-24344363274462731882011-11-30T10:17:18.929+00:002011-11-30T10:17:18.929+00:00Your parsnips (last post) look great. I wish I had...Your parsnips (last post) look great. I wish I had grown more but will do so next year. I'm not a fan of xylitol, however, the bread looks good even if it didn't taste good. I have a super fat free baking cookbook that uses natural sugar substitutes. I'll get the name of it for you.Kellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06263430746482725687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-75476443585554702662011-11-30T10:03:36.975+00:002011-11-30T10:03:36.975+00:00Martyn only uses a teaspoon of sugar but after rea...Martyn only uses a teaspoon of sugar but after reading what others have said he'll try one without next time.Sue Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164518448098182276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-4595588995989494872011-11-30T06:41:30.675+00:002011-11-30T06:41:30.675+00:00i remember reading somewhere that there's some...i remember reading somewhere that there's some kinda side effects with prolonged use/large quantity usage of xylitol..hope this link helps..<br /><br />http://www.exylitol.com/xylitol-side-effectsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00735560052450580964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-24967724108886938922011-11-30T06:32:29.878+00:002011-11-30T06:32:29.878+00:00There are so many artificial sweeteners available ...There are so many artificial sweeteners available now. It's hard to know which ones will suit you and which won't. I hope you'll find a substitute that works for bread.<br />BTW, I recently bought a bread maker (a UK brand) and I'm absolutely thrilled with the results. We're eating a lot more bread these days.Anita Kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10902981126493850669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-32386353426462122322011-11-29T23:16:21.977+00:002011-11-29T23:16:21.977+00:00That is very interesting. There is a natural produ...That is very interesting. There is a natural product out from some plant that takes the place of sugar and is healthy. I will find out what it is; however it might not work either. You know that carbs are as bad for diabetics as sugar, and turns into sugar in the body, which is just too depressing to think about! And most artificial sugars are harmful.Egretta Wells bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410663977991054877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-43481608471472144522011-11-29T21:54:58.387+00:002011-11-29T21:54:58.387+00:00Hi Mark. I use sugar when I make a yeast bread but...Hi Mark. I use sugar when I make a yeast bread but sourdough doesn't need any sugar. Mind you, I've been very lazy since spring came and haven't used my sourdough starter for a while. I wonder if I can keep up my bread making once the weather gets warm.veggiegobblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17455990251167385168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-51237516975949605002011-11-29T21:19:33.229+00:002011-11-29T21:19:33.229+00:00Wow that bread on the left looks quite spectacular...Wow that bread on the left looks quite spectacularly high! I don't use sugar on the odd occasion that I make bread either, but then I don't use a breadmaker and I have never had really wonderful results either.<br /><br />Has Jane tried making it without sugar at all?Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17072118694728610270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-63518362903114861762011-11-29T19:57:34.650+00:002011-11-29T19:57:34.650+00:00This product is probably tested as substitute for ...This product is probably tested as substitute for sugar in tea and coffee. <br /><br />Bread only needs four ingredients: flour, water salt and yeast (only you don't need the yeast to be shop bought and the salt is a matter of taste). When you have the time (!) try missing out the sugar and half the salt. Use your bread maker for the mix and knead and then turn out into a cloth lined basket or bowl and wait for the dough to double in size (could take up to two hours - depends on the temperature). Roll gently onto a flour dusted baking tray and bake at high temperature for 30 mins. You won't want to add extra sugar again.Mal's Allotmenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12349857165496487250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-89469426980343493942011-11-29T19:11:45.585+00:002011-11-29T19:11:45.585+00:00Very interesting. I had never heard of this stuff ...Very interesting. I had never heard of this stuff before. There should be enough sugars in your flour for the yeast to feed off of so maybe you are right this caused its feeding to slow or stop or killed off some of the yeast.becky3086https://www.blogger.com/profile/01026872543168452124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-66493507853210274722011-11-29T18:25:01.936+00:002011-11-29T18:25:01.936+00:00Re Xylitol and birds: I couldn't help noticing...Re Xylitol and birds: I couldn't help noticing that the birds were less keen to eat this bread than they usually are, so maybe this is a "self-limiting problem"! On the other hand, I wouldn't be too worried if my Foxes ate the odd mouthful and experienced a few "unforseen effects" :-) It might dissuade them from savaging my veg...Mark Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04558305122821209520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-70392107402833743482011-11-29T18:16:45.671+00:002011-11-29T18:16:45.671+00:00Thank goodness Barbara is on the ball!Thank goodness Barbara is on the ball!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-43645562611572031742011-11-29T17:50:37.437+00:002011-11-29T17:50:37.437+00:00How strange!
We don't use sugar at all when w...How strange! <br />We don't use sugar at all when we make a loaf in the bread machine - our recipe is very simple:<br />500g strong white bread flour<br />350ml water<br />1 - 1 1/4 tsp dried yeast<br />1 - 1 1/4 tsp salt<br />This usually gives us a lovely fluffy loaf, although we tend to only bake it when we have visitors as my husband can't tolerate wheat.<br />Last weekend we made "slow" spelt bread by hand - with 18 hours on the first proofing. That did have a tea spoon of normal sugar in - and only 1/2 tsp yeast, which is rather incredible - and produced a lovely loaf.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3840827850297141825.post-75768479719596622892011-11-29T17:47:40.250+00:002011-11-29T17:47:40.250+00:00Hi Mark. I am a long time reader of your blog - I ...Hi Mark. I am a long time reader of your blog - I look forward to it each day! - but have rarely commented. However, I am bit alarmed today by your decision to feed the failed bread to the birds since Xylitol is on the list of foods that the ASPCA (in the US)recommends NOT feeding to animals. Here is the link: http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/poison-control/people-foods.aspx<br /><br />Apparently it can cause unforeseen effects in some species. Perhaps it is better to consign it to the trash? It's unfortunate, but you always take so much pleasure in the wildlife around you!<br /><br />Sorry for butting in, I hope you understand my concern.<br /><br />BarbaraBarbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01444024326897708379noreply@blogger.com